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This process/wait is cruel

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  Topic Started By:  cheercoach101    On:  Sat 18th August, 2012 at 21:20
cheercoach101
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#1  This process/wait is cruel  Posted 18/08/2012 at 21:20
I am not waiting for anything at the moment. I am taking a break from applying.

In the time I stopped, I have spent some time reading the posts here and I am almost angry for a lot of people.

I wish airlines could actually come on here and read the messages and put faces, and stories and lives to the endless list of names they have in holding pools, applied statuses, AUP's and AIP's etc.

A couple weeks or so is fine. But how do you justify recruiting world wide when people have been sat in holding pools for nearly a year?!?

At my house, if I have no more space in my fridge, I stop buying sh*t! I don't go to every shop in the world collecting more stuff for my over stuffed fridge, hoping things will magically fit one day.

Why continue to recruit when you already have people waiting?

More than anything, people have lives. And no matter how patient you are and all the ways you distract yourself, it's still tough. Planning trips, and holidays and your life sometimes isn't easy coz you're waiting for that invite, that A.D, that F.I that call, that email etc. Wanting to leave your job or not knowing to start looking for work or not?

I run a non profit orginazation and will be applying for CC work. I cant find someone to run the business until I know when I need them to. In this industry this could be next month or next year. I compete on a national sports team. I start training around the same time I start applying to airlines (october). Im constantly worrying that if i get my dream job, I will let my team down by leaving as I can't finish the season - unless ofcourse im stuck in a holding pool for a year. If I don't tryout for the team, I miss out on my last chance to complete at worlds level as ill soon be too old to compete. I can't put off applying to airlines either coz I dont have a job and my parents have agreed to support me for one year while I chase my dream. I feel like im sitting in limbo....at the mercy of airlines.

I just think a better system needs to be implecated. Some of these guys are the best airlines in the world, who recruit internationally, have such rigorous and throrough vetting systems...and yet cant process an application in less than 6months? really?!

Sorry for the vent, but to the people waiting, I feel for you. I really do. I think it's cruel, its harsh and frankly not fair. You put so much into this - from courses, to grooming to travels costs. And yes, it's totally worth it when we get it. But you can deserve something without having to suffer for it. 8months in a holding pool is disgusting. Thats one month shy of a full term pregnancy! You could have killed time by becoming a surrogate!!

Good luck to all. I genuinely hope that the wait will be worth it.

My dad always said 'whatever you want in life, name your price. If the price of getting it starts to cost more than the price you named in the beginning, its time to walk away.'

He was essentially saying that I needed to know when to call it quits. If all this waiting and worrying is affecting your health, financies, well being, decisions etc you need to consider if you are paying a higher price than you can afford.

Best of luck to all of you and sorry for the rant. It just breaks my heart coz I know how much we want this. ill keep my fingers crossed for you all. spare a thought for those of us who have never even been invited to an A.D lol.
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#2  Re: This process/wait is cruel  Posted 18/08/2012 at 22:28
In reply to post #1...
You make some good points.

I applied last September by registering for an Open day. I attended and they turned it quickly into an AD. I got to the FI the next day and went away feeling really confident as I have customer service experience, a degree in aviation studies and in depth knowledge of the job and company. I am really outgoing etc.

I didn't really check on-line statuses before etc, however when I got my rejection email in October, it BROKE me. Since that day I have literally thought about nothing else. EK is my dream. All my friends joke about how much I talk about it.

The thing I'm worried about is, Is all this waiting and planning in vain. I am worried they have a black tick next to my name for the thing they didn't like before. I will apply again, I am thinking go to an OD in October as I'd rather they saw me than just my CV and photo and then reject from that.

God I want it sooooo much. The point in my reply is, I do understand what you mean, however its hard to think about anything else. I guess next time I apply, if I am lucky enough to pass the AD, my eyes will be glued to the EK website. 1 year is SOOOO long to wait for something that may not happen oh so easily.
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cheercoach101
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#3  Re: This process/wait is cruel  Posted 19/08/2012 at 03:58
In reply to post #2...
i know exactly what you mean. For all my ranting crap, EK is also the dream for me. I only started applying in April and took it for granted that jobs tend to come fairly easily to me. I applied before I did my research and that was the biggest mistake ever lol I got rejected by every single airline I applied to and have yet to get an A.D when so many of my friends seem to fall ass backwards into jobs - some even turning jobs down!

After that, I focused all my energy on EK. I could write the book on EK now and feel so prepared I could literally walk into an A.D/F.I tomorrow confidently. But the problem with this industry is that all the passion in the world does nothing lol

I firmly believe that there is no such think as luck. Luck is simply where preparation meets opportunity. Sadly in this line of work, opportunites come few and far between.

I think the not knowing is the hardest part. You put so much into this and then every now and then, the realization hits you that you may never make it. I have read posts from people who have been applying for 4+years. All i can think about is that in 4years, ill be 30!!! Thats not old by any means and airlines still recruit, but thats not my concern. My concern is that I will waste the best years of my life chasing something that will never happen.

I wasted a lot of my teen and early 20's partying and traveling and just living life like every day was my last lol Now I am happy for the experiences - many of which have made me a stronger candidate for CC - i am still a girl in her mid twenties without a pot to piss in lol Im ready to start my life. Im ready to move on and start being a proper grown up. Im past the point where I can just do any job for the sake of bringing in a pay check. Its time to focus on something, start building my life and finally make my family proud.

Don't let the rant fool you lol I want EK or EY more than anything. I have no interest in working outside the middle east and frankly, I dont wanna work for just ANY airline. I would be miserable and as such, wouldn't care very much about the job.

Bottom line is I have no back up plan for this because ive chased every dream under the sun and this is where I always come back. Everything else is out of my system and this is it. Rejections I can take. The hardest part for me really is those quiet moments alone when I wander if im just wasting my time and life.

Ive prepared as best I can, having a tattoo removed, invested money and time and all in the hopes that something will come to fruition.

I dont know how you have waited a year. 6months has been EPIC!!! The first few weeks are just shock and you pray they made a mistake lol The rest of the 6 months is just a count down to when you can finally apply lol.

Hate this process so much.

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A380Wings
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#4  Re: This process/wait is cruel  Posted 19/08/2012 at 13:21
In reply to post #3...
I completely agree, it really sounds like you are prepared though. I saw on another blog about yesterdays Liverpool OD. As I said, I think I will plan to go to a UK OD, however if there are going to be 200 people there...

I was thinking i could just risk it and apply on-line for an AD. It's such a gamble as I really don't want to have to wait another 6 months to get back to the same place. I feel prepared, the only thing I think I may be lacking is that I am a male Brit, with no second language.
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cheercoach101
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#5  Re: This process/wait is cruel  Posted 19/08/2012 at 21:34
In reply to post #4...
I feel ready, but its tough not second guessing yourself in this business lol

My nerves can't take an O.D so im applying online again for an A.D. If I am unsuccessful again, my final attempt will be in April 2013 and ill just have to attend an O.D lol

Where are you travelling from? London O.D are generally always packed, but sometimes you get lucky and they aren't.

There are plenty of English guys who dont have second languages and still work for emirates. I don't think it puts you at a disadvantage at all. The process for men is longer and harder unfortunately :( but provided you have the experience, grooming, etc you will be fine regardless.

All we can do is preapre, apply and hope luck shifts in our direction. TheIt just really sucks feeling powerless more than anything really. You can reconcile successes and failures but limbo is a b**** lol

You applying anywhere else?
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A380Wings
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#6  Re: This process/wait is cruel  Posted 19/08/2012 at 23:30
In reply to post #5...
I applied for Etihad 5 months ago and didn't get an AD even. I will be applying to them again , but their application system seems a little harder as there are only a few AD in the UK each year. Is there a limit on how many times you can apply to EK then? If so this is news to me.

Qatar would be cool too, but not a UK recruiter are they.
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cheercoach101
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#7  Re: This process/wait is cruel  Posted 21/08/2012 at 19:57
In reply to post #6...
I applied for Etihad in April too and didnt get an A.D. Gonna reapply in October though. Yeah, EY is a bit of a waiting game in terms of waiting for an A.D in London. Some people fly out to Abu D. for the interview though. Personally, thats not an option for me but if people can, why not.

There isn't a limit to how many times you can apply to EK. Met a woman on her 16th try a few months back It's just the 6/12month waits that are an issue but no, theres no limit.

Qatar doesnt recruit here unfortunately. I have friends who are gonna attend QR open days in other countries soon though. If you really wanted to work for them, I would recommend doing the same. Personally, im not that invested in QR and as such, wouldn't travel lol.
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